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# UNUM Chat: Ken Burns and Rachel Maddow
- URL: https://www.cascadepbs.org/show/unum/episode/unum-chat-ken-burns-and-rachel-maddow-fyjtwe/
- Published: 2024-04-02T23:16:20.000Z
- Updated: 2025-08-21T07:58:25.000Z
- Description: Ken Burns and Rachel Maddow in conversation.
- Author: Cascade PBS Staff
- Tags: Ken Burns UNUM, Season 2024, Episode 4, #ZZZ_Episode_b6a4edba-2032-4703-9f49-ee2e9c443c86, #episode, #ZZZ_Show_7a735c68-f2d1-433e-af04-b6191f0d9ef3, #v1.16

Rachel Maddow joins Ken Burns to discuss the parallels between his 2022 film THE U.S. AND THE HOLOCAUST and Rachel’s new book, PREQUEL: AN AMERICAN FIGHT AGAINST FASCISM by exploring the forgotten history of extremist and antisemitic American political ideals around WWII. Rachel and Ken study the patterns of home-grown fascism and how we can remain vigilant against future threats to our democracy.