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# Spilled Milk Podcast: Cacio e Pepe, Okonomiyaki, Chocolate Malt
- URL: https://www.cascadepbs.org/podcasts/your-last-meal/2020/09/spilled-milk-podcast-cacio-e-pepe-okonomiyaki-chocolate-malt/
- Published: 2020-09-03T12:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2026-05-05T19:52:24.000Z
- Description: Listening to Matthew Amster-Burton & Molly Wizenberg host the popular culinary comedy podcast 'Spilled Milk' is like eavesdropping on a giggly slumber party between two curious, well-read best friends who love to eat.
- Author: Rachel Belle
- Tags: Your Last Meal, #podcast, #delete-this-tag, #dovetail_3173616a-3fb2-4450-ba2a-caa860cc8cee

Listening to Matthew Amster-Burton & Molly Wizenberg host the popular culinary comedy podcast '[Spilled Milk](https://www.spilledmilkpodcast.com/home?ref=cascadepbs.org)' is like eavesdropping on a giggly slumber party between two curious, well-read best friends who love to eat.

Molly's last meal takes us to Oklahoma City, home of one of her favorite childhood treats: the chocolate malt at [Braum's Ice Cream & Dairy Store](https://www.braums.com/?ref=cascadepbs.org). We'll learn the fascinating history of old timey, 19th century pharmacy soda fountains (which is where the malt was born, aww!) with beverage history buff [Darcy O'Neil](https://www.artofdrink.com/?ref=cascadepbs.org). And host [Rachel Belle](http://www.hellorachelbelle.com/?ref=cascadepbs.org) tries her very first (and second and THIRD!) malted milkshake.

Matthew's last meal takes us to Japan, by way of Oakland, California with the owner's of [Umami Mart](https://umamimart.com/?ref=cascadepbs.org), who break down okonomiyaki, a savory Japanese pancake best enjoyed late at night with plenty of beer.

Last but not least, legendary Italian chef, cooking show host and restaurateur [Lidia Bastianich](https://lidiasitaly.com/?ref=cascadepbs.org) joins the show to share the history of cacio e pepe, one of Rome's most ancient pasta dishes.

  
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*'Your Last Meal' is a James Beard Award finalist for Best Podcast & has been the #1 food podcast on Apple Podcast. Each episode, award winning host Rachel Belle interviews a celebrity (Greta Gerwig, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Jenny Slate, Betsey Johnson, etc) about what they would choose to eat for their last meal. Then, she digs into the history/science/culture of that dish with experts from around the globe. Don't let the name fool you, 'Your Last Meal' is not morbid! We use food as a catalyst to learn about people.*

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